Thomas Murray

Comment by Patricia Douglas on January 4, 2012 at 12:59pm

Marie, are you on Ancestry? I joined a couple of days ago and have been trying to piece together some of these facts. There are a number of other people researching the Murray family most notably someone under the name Miller. I'm under Thomson.

Comment by Marie Grant on January 4, 2012 at 1:33pm

Hi Pat, no I have used Family Search and, as much as possible, government records or microfiche records. Glenn has been using Ancestry - perhaps I should sign up... 

Comment by Glenn Browne on January 4, 2012 at 2:58pm

The Deluxe addition of Ancestry.com, which covers both North American and Europe, costs $300.00 a year. Of course you can also buy it by the month. One of the wisest ways to use Ancestry.com is to build up your family tree and then post it to Ancestry.com.

That way Ancestry starts searching for connects between the people you have on your tree and the same people listed on other Public Family Trees.  If you have any Ancestry.com questions about the program just ask and I will try and give you the answers.

Comment by Glenn Browne on January 4, 2012 at 3:18pm

With regard to Marie's question about information on Mary Jane Murray, here are a few facts I have gathered. She was born in Hampton County, Quebec, Canada on the 6 Aug 1857. Her father and step-mother moved to  Kittson County in 1880 and Mary Jane followed in 1881. Her husband to be, Joseph Kinshella, also born in Quebec July 1857, also arrived in Kittson County in 1881.  They married the 20 Aug. 1886 in Northcote, Kittson County, Minnesota.

They are on the 1990 Kittson Census under their married names. In 1903 they move to Strathcona, Alberta, Canada. (Mary Jane's brother had proceeded her to Alberta in 1902.) They had three children by the Canadian 1906 Census.  Mary E. born Feb 1891, Sharlotte E. born July 1892, and James E. born Aug 1895.

By the 1916 Census they were living in Millet, Albert which is north of Wetaskiwin.

Mary Jane Kinshella died 29 Oct 1947 in Millet, Alberta at the age of 90.

There she was, living in the Province of Albert all these years, within easy access. Life works in strange ways.

Comment by Glenn Browne on January 7, 2012 at 8:42pm

The Presbyterian Church in Northcote closed many years ago and the church was torn down at some point. The location of the church records were unknown to the Historical Society.  Just recently we learned both the Northcote and Orleans church records are in the custody of the Presbyterian Church in Hallock. We have requested permission to obtain copies of the records on behalf of the Historical Society and await approval of our request in the near future.

Comment by Glenn Browne on January 8, 2012 at 12:37pm

REVIEW - The Kittson Historical Society has been endeavoring to help establish the the names of the parents of Thomas Murray who has been shown on three Kittson censuses as the son of Donald and Isabella Murray, who raised him. The oral family history has suggested that Thomas was raised by a step mother (Isabella?) and his mother may have been Ann. Ann Murray was a child of Donald and Isabella and was about 19 years old when he was born.

As a result we have concentrated on Ann Murray in our research. With the help of Marcy Johnson we established the Ann married a Charles Benjamin Cone in 1984 and had two children.  William born in 1886 and Donald in 1893.  They all lived near Northcote, Kittson County, Mn.  In 1894 Ann Died at the age of thirty and she is buried at Greenwood cemetery in Hallock, Mn.  Shortly after her death her husband left the Northcote area and moved out west with his two boys.

During research on Ancestry.com I located a family tree under the name of ORN-McFARLANE-WEGNER-BIENFANG and it contained the names of Charles and Ann Cone and their two sons.  I was surprised to find also listed as one of their children, Thomas Murray. Thomas was recorded with the other two boys as Thomas Murray.

I have emailed the owner of this family tree and have asked for information as to why she included Thomas as a son to Charles and Ann Cone.   I hope we received a reply in the near future and maybe get some additional information.

Comment by Glenn Browne on January 8, 2012 at 1:43pm

Obituary of Ann Murray Cone.

Comment by Glenn Browne on January 13, 2012 at 7:24pm

This is the house that Thomas Murray grew up in, located on section 30 of Hampdon Township, from 1883 to 1903.  It is still standing but in very poor condition as a result of its age and the many floods that it suffered.

Comment by Patricia Douglas on January 13, 2012 at 8:21pm

That is amazing! Any idea when it was last occupied and when the Murray family left it? Did they build it?

Comment by Glenn Browne on January 13, 2012 at 10:25pm

It has been there a long time and I see no sign of any newer buildings. We are talking to people who have information about the property and family and will report more information as it is learned. It looks like the right half of house was built first and then the left half later. The addition contains a large kitchen on the main floor with a large porch at the front, which has a caved in roof. Above the kitchen is what appears to have been a room that was a bedroom for many children. The floods were as high as the front railing as is indicated by the water mark that is as high as the front window sill.

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